Curse

Simath · Oct 30, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

Btw Lets stop fighting and admit that this ursan run is fun as gw has ever been

Oh I see. When you can play an overpowered flawed gimmick that lets you steamroll anything the game is all of a sudden fun.

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

and Simath if u are doing the normal run then Good you can stop coming on here and flaming those that are enjoying the ursan farming runs.

No thanks. I think I will stay.

schaapie · Oct 30, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Stop beeing so negative about this you do it your way we do it our way. I am gonna try the ursan way too when i have some spare time.

trobinson97 · Oct 30, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

He doesn't feel as special as he once did, you guys should be thoughtful enough to take that into account and stop using Ursan. How else is he going to feel good about himself other than being an elite PvEr?

Missmelady · Oct 30, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Simath

Oh I see. When you can play an overpowered flawed gimmick that lets you steamroll anything the game is all of a sudden fun.

No thanks. I think I will stay.

Oh I get what your problem is. You dont have gwen. Well sry for u. The fact of the matter is the balanced build that you state is faster then ursan way in fact is cheaper then ursan way then because u do it faster. According to you we should all stick with the same build everyone else is using with builds that are needed. Forget it I enjoy helping random people that have never even done doa go through the areas with ursan. I enjoy doing ursan way because it is something new(Everything being easy is just an added bonus, but then again that is why i have all the vanquisher titles i guess i found hm really easy with a build i devolped. Does that mean i should complain that it isnt hard enough and ask anet for another hard mode because i find it easy?) Nah I sit back and enjoy the game while I can. Screen shots of all bars and name of skills that my team uses will be posted soon.

Glyph of Healing is my ign my guild is doing a quad run every weekend and many of the zones dual or solo during the week.

Simath · Oct 30, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

Oh I get what your problem is. You dont have gwen. Well sry for u.

Stating the reason I am against Ursan Blessing is because I do not own GWEN is just daft and entirely false.

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

The fact of the matter is the balanced build that you state is faster then ursan way in fact is cheaper then ursan way then because u do it faster.

First off please learn to be literate. Secondly Ursan way is cheap because it bypasses all forms of melee shutdown and is overpowered to such an extent that button mashing can take anyone through any area, and trying to counter me by saying balanced is cheap just proves your ignorance.

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

According to you we should all stick with the same build everyone else is using with builds that are needed.

And having almost the entire player base ultimately rely upon Ursan Blessing to succeed is not wrong? And when did I ever mention that everyone should stick to the same build? If you think I want to see every team run cookie cutter trash then you seem to be imagining these concepts. You even stating that I insist upon everyone using the same build is like watching your down fall out of your mouth and being trampled on the ground. The majority of teams out their now run the exact same build and that build is Ursan way.

TyrianFury · Oct 30, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Hi all need some help please, been trying foundry with some friends doing it ursan but we cant seem to clear the third chamber. We have tried staying at gate and moving to the north eastern corner before the titans spawn but in each scenario get over whelmed.

Any tips on how to do this? We had 5 of us (4 ursan 1 monk) monk hero, para and rit (com) heros.

Simath · Oct 30, 2007, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by TyrianFury

Hi all need some help please, been trying foundry with some friends doing it ursan but we cant seem to clear the third chamber. We have tried staying at gate and moving to the north eastern corner before the titans spawn but in each scenario get over whelmed.

Any tips on how to do this? We had 5 of us (4 ursan 1 monk) monk hero, para and rit (com) heros.

Watch you aggro bubble very closely and warn your teammates to do the same. The patrols can come awfuly close to to where you are, just be extra careful. Make sure you stay on the same target. If you end up hitting numerous foes and they all clone there will most likely be problems.

Tha Dukk · Oct 31, 2007, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Yes Simath is right. If you're going ursanway, do NOT use Ursan Rage in room 3 at all.

Now I'd like to mention how hard Veil is with UB team... the hungers are simply destroying the average UB pug out there but there is a way around them, per se. Really, your only problem is that pack of 10 hungers spawned in the beginning of Quest 1, which you usually save for last am I right?

This group can be split and dealt with just as you would any other small pack of hungers. The trick is to have the party stand in the doorway of middle spawn, while somebody takes the quest and runs back to the party. When I say middle spawn, I mean 3 groups spawn upon taking quest 1 which come from 3 different "doorways" if you will.

I'll show you, since my explanation is afwul IGN - Obi Duck

pakhavit · Oct 31, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

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Originally Posted by Simath

Watch you aggro bubble very closely and warn your teammates to do the same. The patrols can come awfuly close to to where you are, just be extra careful. Make sure you stay on the same target. If you end up hitting numerous foes and they all clone there will most likely be problems.

Sorry but it didn't work that way -__-a

once you move in to third room, there's 2 choice

1. move to the middle of the room trigger the patrol then wait. then once they start patrol run all the way to the other side of the room top right conner, that's why you fight and Patrol won't caught you.

2. Every one move to the Top right conner, a group of misty titan will pop-up run into the conner and stay near the wall.

I recommend 1. and kill misty titan last cos aoe spell can be harmful
if you kill misty last you can fight in the middle of the room bigger area

Faer · Oct 31, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

Oh I get what your problem is. You dont have gwen. Well sry for u.

Oh, I get what your problem is. You can't clear DoA without Ursan Blessing. Well, sorry for you.

See how that works? Don't make dumb assumptions about people. It makes you look stupid.

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Originally Posted by trobinson97

He doesn't feel as special as he once did, you guys should be thoughtful enough to take that into account and stop using Ursan. How else is he going to feel good about himself other than being an elite PvEr?

Actually, I think the people who can clear high-end zones without Ursan are actually pretty special players. In fact, I'd go so far as to say doing DoA without using a single Ursan makes a person feel pretty good.

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Originally Posted by pakhavit

Sorry but it didn't work that way -__-a

Simath does it nightly like that. I'm kind of inclined to trust his advice on the matter.

trobinson97 · Oct 31, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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Originally Posted by Faer

Actually, I think the people who can clear high-end zones without Ursan are actually pretty special players. In fact, I'd go so far as to say doing DoA without using a single Ursan makes a person feel pretty good.

That's nice and I won't say your opinion is wrong. I will just say that I don't think they are any more/less special than players who did DoA without UB. They just used different skills. I've said all along, this is about people needing this to feel pretty good about themselves.

TyrianFury · Oct 31, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by pakhavit

Sorry but it didn't work that way -__-a

once you move in to third room, there's 2 choice

1. move to the middle of the room trigger the patrol then wait. then once they start patrol run all the way to the other side of the room top right conner, that's why you fight and Patrol won't caught you.

2. Every one move to the Top right conner, a group of misty titan will pop-up run into the conner and stay near the wall.

I recommend 1. and kill misty titan last cos aoe spell can be harmful
if you kill misty last you can fight in the middle of the room bigger area

Thanks for all the info guys will have another go at the weekend. There just isn't enough people around these days to do it the 'normal hide behind walls way' which if you ask me is a retarded way to have to do a mission anyway. Ursan is a lot more fun.

Free Wind · Oct 31, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by TyrianFury

There just isn't enough people around these days to do it the 'normal hide behind walls way' which if you ask me is a retarded way to have to do a mission anyway. Ursan is a lot more fun.

"hide behind walls way" was retarded always.
Before Ursan, before hard mode, in the early days of DoA, always, mate, always, it was possible to beat DoA without usual skills. Look at this screenshot - it was made half a year ago. You see any Ursan there? You see any obsidian tanks? You see any consumables?

1.30 min wasnt the best time to finish stygian. But it was a decent time

Woitix · Oct 31, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

I don't get how you guys finish Gloom with UB? I keep getting killed when defending that dude and you get attacked by all those waves of enemies.

And i see that most are way faster than me. took me 50 min voor citadel, but the times reported here are way faster than that. How the hell do you do that, it's like running around and being able to slice everyone's throat while running past them.

trobinson97 · Oct 31, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by Free Wind

Look at this screenshot - it was made half a year ago. You see any Ursan there? You see any obsidian tanks? You see any consumables?

I don't see any Ritualists, Paragons, Dervishes, Assassins, Rangers, or Mesmers either.

Free Wind · Oct 31, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by trobinson97

I don't see any Ritualists, Paragons, Dervishes, Assassins, Rangers, or Mesmers either.

That's because it's a PUG, not an organized group, a PUG that never asked me to ping my build. Also, thats just a random screenshot that I cared to save

We cleared foundry with 2 rits in party several times in the old days, Rahtoch has several screenshots with 3 paras (2 being heroes) killing Mallyx, etc etc.

I see you've been travelling from thread to thread zealously defending this skill - no need to pick at me - I was the one who shared Ursanway with people. And I said in the very begining and keep on saying now - Use it while you can. Abuse it

trobinson97 · Oct 31, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

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Originally Posted by Free Wind

That's because it's a PUG, not an organized group, a PUG that never asked me to ping my build. Also, thats just a random screenshot that I cared to save

We cleared foundry with 2 rits in party several times in the old days, Rahtoch has several screenshots with 3 paras (2 being heroes) killing Mallyx, etc etc.

I see you've been travelling from thread to thread zealously defending this skill - no need to pick at me - I was the one who shared Ursanway with people. And I said in the very begining and keep on saying now - Use it while you can. Abuse it

Not defending the skill as much I am defending player choice. But point taken, and I will be on my way,

Racthoh · Oct 31, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Free Wind

"hide behind walls way" was retarded always.

Using terrain to your advantage to avoid line of sight is... bad?

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Before Ursan, before hard mode, in the early days of DoA, always, mate, always, it was possible to beat DoA without usual skills. Look at this screenshot - it was made half a year ago. You see any Ursan there? You see any obsidian tanks? You see any consumables?

I don't want to ask, but I have to... was someone using necrotic traversal or consume corpse? Because I see an N/R and I know what they were used for in DoA.

Missmelady · Oct 31, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Bah ha ha I did Doa back when it first came out. Was one of the first people to do 3 man runs in foundry. Farmed well into the millions of gold off of titan gems when they were still 90k+ each. I have my fair share of tormented weapons/mallyx weapons. What was once fun when there were always groups forming with balanced/ Necrotic traversal necros went down the hole, untill recently, Doa has once again begun to come back to life with ursan build. Ursan way has brought life back into Doa and people that once were never able to get a group because they were not a specific class are now able to do it.

I consider myself a high end player but i do feel pity for those "noobs" that had never had the chance to do doa and now that they have a build that any one can run with half a brain the 1337 of the 1337 dont want to share it. Bit of ignorance on their part.

Free Wind · Oct 31, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Using terrain to your advantage to avoid line of sight is... bad?

I meant Obsidian tank, or any 'tank' strategy actually, sorry for misunderstanding

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

I don't want to ask, but I have to... was someone using necrotic traversal or consume corpse? Because I see an N/R and I know what they were used for in DoA.

That screenshot there is veil, no CC or NT there. N/R was used for spirits (symbiosis, eoe - i guess Kaiz guild was the first to use it)

In foundry, yes, when we used to do it back then we were using NT or CC to rebirth people out of the second room